SNAP R.I.P.: After Hefty Lawsuit Payout, Leaders Dorris and Casteix Now Abandon Ship

Barbara Dorris : SNAP : Joelle Casteix

Saying "Sayonara" to SNAP: Executive director Barbara Dorris (l) and Regional director Joelle Casteix (r)

How the mighty have fallen. Executive Director Barbara Dorris, Regional Director Joelle Casteix, and other longtime board members have resigned from their leadership positions at the lawyer-funded hate group SNAP, marking yet another significant downfall for the once-influential organization.

Their departures come after word that SNAP has finally settled a high-profile lawsuit that exposed lawyer kickback schemes, a callous exploitation of abuse victims, and SNAP's abiding ideological hatred of the Catholic Church.

News of the settlement and the departures were first reported by Brian Roewe at the sympathetic National Catholic Reporter, who buried the story on a late Friday afternoon.

Is anything left?

After last year's shocking lawsuit surfaced, longtime SNAP stalwarts and media blowhards David Clohessy and Barbara Blaine (SNAP's founder) abruptly resigned. The lawsuit – filed by SNAP's own former fundraising director Gretchen Hammond – may have been the straw the broke the camel's back. Also around the same time, a falsely accused priest in Michigan sued SNAP for defamation.

Indeed, the period leading up to all of the resignations is replete with examples of SNAP's rogue behavior and reckless actions in their campaign of hatred against the Catholic Church:

  • In August 2016, a federal judge ruled that SNAP maliciously defamed priest Rev. Xiu Hui "Joseph" Jiang and ordered that SNAP "pay the reasonable expenses, including plaintiff's attorney's fees" for defaming him.
  • In 2014, after years of attacking the Church for alleged "inaction" on abuse cases, it was revealed that SNAP did not call police or alert Church officials even though it knew "for several weeks" about a shocking sex abuse allegation against a Chicago priest. Instead, it held a circus-like press conference.
  • SNAP published the email addresses and personal phone numbers of accused priests to incite harassment against them.
  • In 2013, we exclusively reported that SNAP founder Barbara Blaine admitted that she not only wrote a letter on behalf of a doctor arrested with kiddie porn and but also outlined a plan to cover it up.
  • SNAP sued for the right to harass and intimidate parishioners at Sunday Mass.
  • In 2012, we revealed that the vast majority of SNAP's funding comes from kickbacks from Church-suing tort lawyers.
  • In 2012, we exclusively reported that SNAP's Clohessy admitted under oath in a deposition that SNAP had released false information to the press.
  • In 2012, Clohessy actually accused Philadelphia's Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua of faking his cancer to avoid appearing at a deposition. However, within 36 hours of Clohessy's callous remark, Bevilacqua passed away.

Indeed, SNAP's intense animus against the Catholic Church cannot be overstated. As SNAP continues its rapid decline into oblivion, some measure of justice will have been served for the many priests and other innocent victims of its reckless and malicious campaign of defamation and hatred.

[See also: **TheMediaReport.com Special Report** Facts About SNAP That Will Shock You]

Comments

  1. malcolm harris says:

    Yes, SNAP does appear to be in a headlong dive to oblivion. Hopefully they are now on borrowed time. God moves in mysterious ways, carefully weaving his tapestry, usually out of our sight  But there is no doubt he uses  dedicated and talented people….   to assist him. One such person is Dave Pierre, who has laboured long and hard to expose the lies and duplicity of this group. Basically they were modern-day rabble rousers…. and hate-filled bigots at that.  Try to imagine Gretchen Hammond, as she accepted her settlement check. She would have folded it neatly and dropped it in her purse. Then closed her purse with a satisfying…. SNAP.

    • Jim Robertson says:

      So lovely for you to have God on your side, Malcolm. Are Santa the Tooth Fairy and the Easter bunny also plugging for you?

      Gretchen Hammond, hired by SNAP because she's a trans person and Jewish, SNAP must appear "liberal' in order for the false flag to work, has received a judgment on her case? If SNAP really were "liberal' why would they risk the possibilities that arise from a wrongful firing?  SNAP must have really made a massive transition in the past years from when I and other gay people had to call them out again and again on there hate-filled behaviors AGAINST gay people including towards gay victims, that they hired Ms. Hammond then fired her.

      Again can anyone name anything that SNAP has done that has helped victims? Really name one thing.

       

    • Dan says:

      Nice job of brown nosin' there Malcolm.

  2. philip says:

    Dan, you're right.  God will judge in the end and what you call a cult,will be shown, despite it's sinful members to be the true Church founded by Christ Jesus. Are members of your church sinless?

    • Dan says:

      Hey Phillip, Maybe if you read the bible, you can find, in the end, the perfect description of your true cult founded by your ever-virgin "Queen of Heaven" (lie), described in perfect detail;

      "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–They will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."  Rev 21:8

      What could be more 'vile', 'sexually immoral' and idolatrous than pedophiles, pederasts and perverts and their cult of lying ('liars') excusers. Get clear of them before you end up swimming with them in their fiery lake of burning sulfur. These unrepentant serial child molesters of innocent children aren't just your normal sinners who deserve the forgiveness of an Almighty Pure and Perfect God. They are nothing but filthy scum.  servant of the Lord

      P.S. And Heaven help those who defend, minimize and spread all kinds of lies and deception in defense of such creeps and their evil cult of hypocrites.

  3. Jim Robertson says:

    SNAP's setting up groups of victims with no therapists involved as therapists only allowed victims to air our stories to each other. No healing there save for realizing we weren't as alone as we thought we were. That doesn't heal much.

    But think about it. A survivors' group that never demanded compensation for its membership. That would be like a union that never demanded higher wages but only spoke about how hard it is to be a low paid worker.

  4. Publion says:

    As should come as a surprise to no regular reader, the implosion of SNAP has prompted yet another extended dump of JR’s favorite bits (the 14th at 219PM):

    That SNAP is a “false-flagged” tool of the Church and always has been / putting SNAP right up there with – had you been waitttinggg forrr itttt? – “Lourdes or the Shroud of Turin”;

    That “you have to be a fool” not to “believe that SNAP and Jeff Anderson … weren’t working for the church”; readers will notice that JR offers – once again – not a single shred of evidence or even plausible thought as to how SNAP and Anderson were tools of the Church; his claim here is that they self-destructed (on orders of the Church, of course) by making “purposeful error after willful error” (in order to collapse themselves).

    As I have proposed, the matrix of elements that supported the Stampede lost the ability to maintain the oh-so-necessary presumptive illusion that the Church was surely a nest of (fill-in-the-blank),  and that presumption (to question it would re-victimize the ‘victims’, of course) served as the flood-tide that lifted all boats over the glaring problems and questions raised by the Stampede.

    Readers will also note JR’s signature form (or rather de-form) of rational argumentation: he merely tosses out epithets at anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

  5. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on JR’s of the 14th at 219PM:

    That Jeff Anderson was “THE only tort lawyer for 30 years” – which would come as news to the numerous other torties involved in these cases  around the country (including the one who got JR’s claims grandfathered into the big LA abuse settlement of a dozen or so years ago);

    That the Stampede (deceitfully fronted for the Church, in JR’s eructations, by SNAP and Anderson) was a “success”; it was a “success”, surely, for anyone who wanted to play the game that SNAP and the torties set up – but how it was a “success” for the Church (that lost anywhere from three to four billion dollars) remains to be seen. (Regular readers will recall that JR’s bit to cover this problem is that there are gazillions of ‘victims’ out there who have never gotten paid, though there is no evidence of their existence that he can demonstrate; they are thus as real as – oh, say – leprechauns.)

    That only in California were allegants really nicely remunerated; this would come as news to other dioceses and archdioceses around the country that have also had to make huge payouts;

    “What a fraud” indeed. And as to who might “have no morals no shame and no sense of responsibility” (sic) and who also  qualifies as “an evil joke” … readers may judge as they will.

  6. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on JR’s of the 14th at 219PM:

    That the “Rico laws were never brought to bare” (Freudian slip on JR’s part here?); perhaps they were never brought to bear because the government attorneys realized they did not apply and no case brought on the Rico basis in this matter could succeed;

    Ditto that “no national class action lawsuits were ever made against the Church”; perhaps because even torties realized that no case brought on such a strategy could succeed, especially if the cases actually had to stand up in court rather than be settled out of court (as almost all of them were);

  7. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on JR’s of the 14th at 219PM:

    And then – apparently trying to do some pre-emptive damage and spin control, JR will try to characterize anything I might ‘type’ as – had you been waitttinggggggggggg forrrrrrr ittttttttttttt? – “lies”.

    And that – yet again – the (oh-so-presumptively genuine) “victims” were merely “herded” like dumb animals into the toothy arms of torties promising big payoffs with little danger of real examination;

    And that the mainstream media never “investigated” SNAP because – had you been waittttingggg forrr itttttt? – the Church owned the land under the major media’s buildings. As I have said, the media knew a gripping (and ongoing and lucrative) soap-opera when they saw one (and SNAP and the torties very creatively obliged on this score with their assorted stories); and the whole Stampede fit in nicely with the general liberal agenda to weaken the influence of religion in the nation’s culture; and the ‘trial attorneys’ (i.e. torties) constitute a significant professional demographic supporting the Democratic agenda of ‘secularism’.

  8. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on JR’s of the 14th at 219PM:

    And that few bishops and priests went to jail “for their crimes”; perhaps because few allegants really opted for filing criminal charges (rather than the far more directly lucrative settlement in civil suit) and few DA’s figured that they could make a case out of the stories on offer and – for that matter – perhaps there were just not as many “crimes” as the Stampede would eagerly have everyone presume.

    As always, whenever JR bleats “that’s the whole truth” any reader is well-advised to start counting one’s pocket change.

    And in another bravura display of his apparently fundamental ignorance of how things work, JR tries to pooh-pooh the Church’s costs of settlements by bleating that the insurance companies paid a lot of it. It apparently has escaped him that if one makes a very large claim or a number of large claims on a policy, then either the policy is going to be cancelled or the premiums are going to skyrocket into the very-large category very quickly.

  9. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on JR’s of the 14th at 219PM:

    Oh, and he’s still on his murderous-fantasies jag as well. At this point, regular readers may well imagine that these do not represent or do not only represent a rhetorical strategy on JR’s part, nor only a display of a long-standing characteristic of JR personally (i.e. if he doesn’t get what he wants he’s gonna getcha you betcha), but also constitute an indication of an intensifying descent into something best left for direct and focused clinical intervention.

  10. Publion says:

    On then to ‘Dan’s of the 14th at 1136PM:

    Here ‘Dan’ too will take the opportunity to toss up a misch of his usual stuff, a) starting with the presumption of “thousands” of clerical “molesters” and “protectors”, then moving on to b) the presumed “thousands” not being prosecuted because of Statutes of Limitations or death or “sympathizing prosecutors or judges” who c) were “possibly catholics and afraid of the cult” or who d) died or were “hidden” … or perhaps taken away somewhere by Martians or leprechauns why not?

    But wait. There’s more. We also get such familiar bits as e) the “blessed ever-virgin idol”.

    And then ‘Dan’ gives us another bravura performance of his God-imitation, delivering a deliciously-fuming intimation of Hell and so on … which ‘Dan’ doth know for his bathroom mirror tells him so.

    And regular readers might recall that in the Fall of last year New York torties, approaching the end of a Statute-of-Limitations extension period, had to buy an overt advertisement in The New York Post  soliciting stories and claims urgently because time was running out. In the event the New York Metro area yielded only 180 or so fresh stories and claims after an entire year of that SOL extension.

    • Dan says:

      Response to publiar's April 16, 2018 @ 4:27pm -

      Publiar's back! I state obvious truths and facts in regards to Catholic Child Abuse and it's many cover-ups, and he thinks he can sarcastically claim they're just fantasies, displaying once again his childish stupidity and immature ignorance. Followed up with his "bathroom" toilet trash. For someone who passes himself off as being somewhat intelligent, you sure can often respond like an immature baby (i.e. " 'Dan' doth know for his bathroom mirror tells him so."). I bet you're proud of your little girlie man nursery rhymes. Grow up, peewee!

  11. malcolm harris says:

    Dave Pierre reminded us how former SNAP director David Clohessy had attacked the late Cardinal Anthony Bevilacua, back in 2012. Clohessy accused the Cardinal of faking his illness, to avoid answering questions, during deposition. But within 36 hours the elderly Cardinal died, from his long-standing cancer affliction. This accusation must be straight out of the Playbook. Because Cardinal Pell (Australia) has been accused, by subtle inference, of exaggerating his heart condition.  So even any delay, caused by ill-health, is used to further smear a Catholic leader. But getting back to Clohessy, the outfit he was working for, SNAP, is looking very sick indeed, and may not survive. But the Church that Cardinal Bevilaqua was working for will continue it's pilgrimage… as it has done for the last 2000 years.

  12. Jim Robertson says:

    Because you dumbshit. Its no crime to threaten to murder someone who doesn't exist.

     

  13. Amateur Brain Surgeon says:

    Ding Dong

    SNAP is Gone

    Which old SNAP?

    The Wicked SNAP

    Ding Dong The Wicked SNAP is gone

    • Dan says:

      Just another catholic witch-hunt, in an attempt to take the SPOTLIGHT off of their church and it's plethura of disgusting unrepentant child molesting clergy and their lying excusers and defenders.

  14. Publion says:

    As I have said before in regard to JR’s recent ‘murder jag’ in comments: I don’t take them personally and actually think they are very usefully revealing and instructive.

    We now see a further nicely-vivid double display (the 17th at 1249AM and 12254AM) of how JR’s mind works to justify himself: since I am ‘invisable’ – doncha see? – then it’s not a (prosecutable) crime to threaten to murder me.

    First, this would require one to presume that anonymity equals some form of invisibility, which itself requires one to presume that being in any way ‘invisable’ (or more accurately, anonymous) equates to being non-existent as a person.

    Which would also mean that in any case where the police discover an unidentified but clearly murdered corpse then they can’t declare the crime a murder because the clearly-murdered corpse has not been identified by name (and thus – being ‘invisable’ – cannot be demonstrated to be a human corpse).

  15. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on JR’s of the 17th at 1249AM and 1254AM:

    Of course, the astute reader will also quickly realize that if JR’s bit here is to be taken seriously, then he effectively admits that he has for quite a few years been expending time and energy in controversy with a non-existent entity (i.e. myself, anonymous and – if his ‘logic’ is to be accepted – non-existent as a person).

    What we see here is a (probably long-practiced) word-game deployed in the service of self-exculpation. Ideas, concepts and meanings are simply toyed with like a child’s blocks to make whatever little imaginary structure suits his fancy and his purpose.

    So for readers, we get yet another instructive demonstration of the type of mentality we are dealing with, which I would say is also the mentality that a high-school administration had to deal with 55 or more years ago and – while I yield not a whit of approval for the SNAP operation – what SNAP had to deal with during the time JR was associated with it.

    The Stampede was structured precisely to give such a mentality and game-plan as much play as possible and one must bear this in mind whenever assessing claims and stories and allegations.

  16. Publion says:

    Commenter ‘Malcolm Harris’s mention of Cardinal Pell’s case (the 16th at 959PM) dovetails with the most recent update from Down-Under:

    As some readers may recall, a year or more ago Cardinal Pell (who had fallen afoul of Pope Francis by objecting to some of the papal initiatives a few years ago) was accused of assorted and long-ago sexually-abusive acts back in Australia / he took a leave of absence from the Vatican and went back to Australia / which at the time was in the midst of a government inquiry into sexual abuse of the young (although not – if memory serves – in public, government-run or government-sponsored institutions) / and earlier this year his ‘case’ made its way through the stages of the Aussie legal system to a month-long set of hearings that was held in March in order for a magistrate to determine if the various claims merited a court trial.

    Despite the numerous glaring problems of inconsistency and outright impossibility in the various claims, stories and accusations, the magistrate presiding over the hearing opined a day ago that she was inclined to let the case proceed to a jury trial. To do so she and the prosecutors seem to have fallen back onto a curious legal standard of evidence: unless an accusation has been “annihilated” in pre-trial hearing, then the case should go to a jury.

  17. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on the ‘Malcolm Harris’ comment of the 16th at 959PM:

    As opposed to a standard such as ‘preponderance of evidence’ or ‘clear and convincing proof’ or ‘proof beyond a reasonable doubt’, the prosecution and the magistrate claim that the applicable standard at this point is ‘annihilation’, which is not a formal legal term but rather more of a literary or rhetorical term. (Although there is a formal legal term ‘anniented’ – meaning: made null, abrogated or brought to nothing – that is not the specific legal term the magistrate has used.)

    Does the magistrate simply wish to dodge responsibility and kick the case upstairs, as it were? Are the prosecutors perhaps still hoping that if they keep this thing going long enough somebody – anybody – will feel moved to ‘come forward’ (as the Victimists like to say nowadays) and throw some better wood on the fire?

    At any rate, readers may wish to consult the article ‘War against Cardinal Pell’, archived at the Catholic League site. This article simply lists the various accusations and how they have already been discredited in one way or another.

    The magistrate’s final decision is to be rendered on May 1st. Perhaps the strategy is to see how public opinion reacts in the next two or three weeks and go from there.

    • Dan says:

      Oh yeah! Let's take the word of big-mouth catholic defender and excuser Bill Donahue as he attacks all the victims of the pure and holy cardinal Pell, with the usual excuses that it all happened years ago, as if that alone is proof that accusations are false. You jackasses haven't heard that victims of child abuse on average take 30 or 40 years to come clean and be believed and can end up having serious lifelong problems?

      And if card Pell, as big-mouth Bill claims, "has a stellar record of combating this problem" in regards to "sexual abuse", it's only based on the fact that the church is plagued with clergy child abusers. What better way to take the "spotlight" off of yourself than to thirty years later claim you're against the very sins your guilty of.

      John Gill once stated back in the 1700's, " And whoremongers; all unclean persons, that indulge themselves in impure lusts, in fornication, adultery, and all lewdness; as the clergy of the church of Rome, who being forbidden to marry, and being under a vow of celibacy, and making great pretensions to chastity and singular holiness, give themselves to all lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness."

      My guess is that your church has been plagued with perverted hierarchy for it's 1700 or so years of existence, so please don't include Simon Peter as the first of your creepy pompous popes. When big-mouth Donahue and all the rest of you catholic excusers wish to claim that it's all past history and long ago, well I guess there's some truth to that considering the systemic perversions, greed and wickedness of your cult has gone on throughout church history.

  18. Publion says:

    I’ll go down the list of ‘Dan’s most recent stuff in the order they appear going down the comment-list.

    On the 17th at 1126PM ‘Dan’ tries to solve his problems by (slyly and manipulatively) presuming that he merely doth “state obvious truths and facts” … and if you don’t drink that Kool-Aid then the rest of his bit collapses. Monstrances and Hosts as sun-god worship and moon-god worship and Mary as a pagan idol and so forth … such “truths and facts” can only be “obvious” to a mind like ‘Dan’s.

    Ditto when he tries to characterize my “’bathroom’ toilet trash”. My imagery in that regard only refers to his bathroom mirror, where – as I have often said – he appears to conduct his séances with the entities that grant him his oh-so-speshull ability to discern “obvious truths and facts”, including that of his own very-speshullness.

    That quotation involving “tells him so” is actually from an old Protestant and fundie jingle. So ‘Dan’ can go and deliver his invective against “little girlie man nursery rhymes” to the people from whom he’s lifted most of his stuff.

  19. Publion says:

    On then to ‘Dan’s of the 18th at 901AM:

    Here ‘Dan’ will simply dig into his 3×5 pile and riff in a general sort of way on the Catholic League and Bill Donahue.

    But the article itself to which I referred simply goes down the long list of problems with the various stories and witnesses and so on, ticking off the problems – and they are not insignificant problems at all.

    Thus and as so very often, his game here is to evade the actual and the factual by tossing up a “smokescreen” (to use one of JR’s favorite terms) of general free-floating invective in the hopes of distracting any reader from sober consideration and instead ‘stampeding’ (to use one of my favorite terms) readers into an emotional state that is also free-floating and evasively disconnected from any actual consideration of the realities.

  20. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on ‘Dan’s of the 18th at 901AM:

    And he lards on as many 3×5 bits from the standard Victimist Playbook as he can muster.

    Thus that it takes oodles of years before a victim might decide to ‘come forward’: when you are robbed coming out of a bank with a withdrawal does it take that long to decide you might want to inform the police? Well, one might say, being robbed isn’t the same thing. And that point is itself rather instructive: if something doesn’t appear to be a crime to begin with in the first place, then … well, where does that take us?

    And how then is a claim to be treated in the legal system, coming oodles of years later? The Victimist solution to that utterly intractable and abyssal problem has been to simply ‘believe the victim’ no matter what the claim and then just let ‘outrage’ govern the process and outcome of adjudication. One draws perilously close to totalitarian show-trial jurisprudence very quickly.

  21. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on ‘Dan’s of the 18th at 901AM:

    Then another 3×5 bit that also seeks to deploy a specious imitation of logic: even if Cardinal Pell has been “combating this problem” then that only ‘proves’ that there is a huge problem just like ‘Dan’ says.

    There exists and always has existed the danger of sexual abuse in any human organization; and the Church as human organization no doubt has had instances of it. The more interesting point is that the Church has taken more steps than any other organization on the planet to deal with this all-too-human problem.

    • Dan says:

      I tried my best to ignore your ignorance and stupidity, publiar, and especially your belief that Big-Mouthed Bill has factually disputed anything, when all I read is the excuses and defense of another perverted catholic leader and the usual cowardly blaming of victims.

      Once again, and I repeat, an institution which makes claims of being Holy, Pure, True, Godly, etc., should not have any vile, lusting or lewd pedophile or pederast creeps among it's ranks. Once found they should have had them immediately laicized and imprisoned, not coddled, hidden and then secretly transferred the perverts to other dioceses.

      Once again, for you to compare yourselves to other human organizations, after claiming to be so pompously holy and attempting to place blame on others, is cowardly, hypocritical and plagued with nothing but excuses, lies and denials. And to claim "the Church has taken more steps than any organization on the planet" is just more of your lies, and yet they should have done more seeing that they are absolutely the worst homosexual pedophile cult, even among secular organizations.

      Must you continually lie and make excuses for your disgustingly vile and corrupt cult?

  22. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on ‘Dan’s of the 18th at 901AM:

    One thinks of a similar dynamic in the matter of slavery: slavery of one sort or another has existed in just about all human societies throughout history; captives were taken in war and – when not executed – reduced to slavery; the Moslem empires and regimes not only took captives for slaves in their own wars but also ran slave-trading enterprises for many centuries (one recalls Thomas Jefferson’s efforts against the slave-trading economy of the so-called ‘Barbary pirates’); and the history of intra-African slave-trading, as well as the complicity in providing slaves to purchasers from abroad, has yet to receive sufficient notice (does anyone really think that for centuries small bands of European slave-traders penetrated freely and frequently to the heart of the sub-continent to take slaves and transport them without incident out to the distant seashores where ships awaited?).

    The historically novel point is that the British government in 1807 ordered the Royal Navy to stop the maritime slave-trade ships and eventually drew the US government of the day into assisting in that mighty task. It was not the tribal chiefs who decided to put a stop to the lucrative business. Nor, for that matter, was it the decidedly Protestant entrepreneurs of the Northern states who had engaged in what is historically called the Triangle Trade.

    • Dan says:

      What is your "similar dynamic", that slavery was as cruel as your cults molesting of young innocent children? No! Slavery was cruel, but nothing so disgusting as the harm your cult caused to thousands of families and their little ones. DESPICABLE AND INEXCUSABLE!!

  23. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on ‘Dan’s of the 18th at 901AM:

    Then ‘Dan’ once again tries on the Wig of Educated Competence, this time quoting from one John Gill, a very early 18th-century English Baptist preacher of strongly Calvinist theological leanings. No doubt one can rummage through the post-Reformation era for bundles of such vivid and catchy invective – and are we to imagine that there were no such miscreants among that day’s Protestant clergy and faithful?

    (We note in this bit, interestingly, the old Protestant idea that Catholicism’s clerical celibacy is somehow a – or perhaps the – primary cause of Catholic clerical sexual issues. But if that is to be taken as accurate, then there would be very few – if any at all – sexual miscreants among the other world religions or non-Catholic variants of Christianity, since just about all of them do not require celibacy.)

    • Dan says:

      So once again, let's point the accusatory finger at others, so we can claim the nasty "miscreants" of our cult aren't any worse than the rest. First off, most Protestant clergy went after teen girls, and didn't rape and molest little boys and babies, not that this makes them innocent either. Secondly, this is the reason why I belong to none of the religious cults and phony false churches of the world. You're all plagued with deceiving lying hypocrites, claiming some false form of Godliness, when nothing is further from the truth.

      And I'm under no opinion that ending "catholicism's clerical celibacy" would solve any of your cult's problems. You would still be unrepentant idolaters, greedy, cowards, sexually immoral and blatant liars, all sins in themselves worthy of Hell's Fire. I've told you before that married respected catholic store owners (males) in the neighborhood of my youth were having sex with minor boys on the side. Clerical celibacy would change absolutely nothing. Your leaders are perverts and pedophiles and have done little or nothing to change their status, other than to deny and deceive.

  24. Publion says:

    Continuing with my comment on ‘Dan’s of the 18th at 901AM:

    Thus, then, ‘Dan’ will conclude by favoring us with his “guess”, and readers may judge it as they may.

    And he further tries to make his “guess” do double-duty, tossing in a bit about Simon Peter not being the first Pope. Aside from the fact that a) nobody is familiar with whatever personal human failings Simon Peter demonstrated in his life whether pre- or post- his encounter with Christ then b) we are still faced with the pericope (never addressed by ‘Dan’) wherein Christ gave Peter the Great Commission (i.e. to be the rock upon which Christ would build His church and to be given the power to bind and loose sins).

    And we can also add c) the abyssal problem posed for the ‘Dan’-fundie approach by Paul’s admission that the good he wishes to do he does not do and the evil he wishes to avoid he yet commits.

    • Dan says:

      I have addressed and I'm not denying Christ's statement in regard to Peter being the rock, but some claim that Christ was speaking of himself and Peter didn't resemble much of a rock when he denied knowing Jesus. What I am denying is that there is no way that Peter was in any way the first catholic pope. No mention of any popes in the Bible, and how dare you claim the humbled Peter to be one of your pompous, deceiving, fish-headed phony, wolves in sheep's clothing. Absolutely nothing in the Word would lead even an imbecile to come to such a stupidly ignorant conclusion, but not surprising you have.

      Another one of your ignorant conclusions that Paul remained a horrible sinner after he came to Christ. You're taking his statements completely out of context to what he was teaching in this chapter (Romans 7) and the rest of his teachings of how with Christ we become a new creature, turning our backs on our sinful lives and striving to live pure, clean and changed lives. Perfect? No, but surely not insistent idolaters, greedy, disgustingly vile, sexually immoral perverts and let's not forget compulsive liars, like yourself.

      Why must you think you can interpret Biblical wisdom, while belonging and living the life of a lying, deceived and delusional catholic?    servant of the Lord

  25. Publion says:

    On then to ‘Dan’s of the 17th at 1056PM:

    Here ‘Dan’ apparently tries a come-back to the question posed by commenter ‘Ken W’ (the 16th at 1112AM) as to why threats of murder are allowed in the comments section.

    “They’re allowed” – ‘Dan’ doth hereby declare – because (we must try to follow the bouncing ball here) by this site permitting those clearly-demonstrated violent lucubrations “it gives the church the opportunity to point their fingers at someone else” as being a “monster”.

    This excuse of ‘Dan’s relies – of course – on the acceptance of his presumption that the Church is fatally riddled with ‘monsters’ in the form of “pedophile perverts and sick creeps of the cult”, which assertion is hardly demonstrated to be true but is absolutely essential if ‘Dan’s personal shtick and agenda are to retain any semblance of accuracy and relevance.

    And as always, the bottom-line turns out to be a familiar old marketing strategy: having (he hopes) disposed of this particular rival to the claim of being divinely-commissioned and divinely-authorized, ‘Dan’ can then present himself for that status. Or – perhaps more accurately – ‘Dan can then presume himself to hold that status … and if you don’t agree, then God’ll getcha you betcha.

  26. malcolm harris says:

    Publion, on the 17th, is probably correct regarding how there may be some confusion between the word 'annihilated' and the word 'anniented'. Don't know if it's the Magistrate herself, or the court reporters, who have got it wrong? Will only say that standards in higher education have been falling steadily for the past 30 years. However the word 'annihilation' can mean…. "to totally defeat in argument or contest".   Well, having read Phil Donohue's article called 'The War against Cardinal Pell'… then to my mind 'annihilation' may well be appropriate. Because the known charges appear to have been totally defeated, on the defence's evidence, already placed before the Magistrate.

    • Dan says:

      Hey Malcolm, "Phil Donahue" was a talk show host. Maybe Big-mouthed Bill can do that for his next gig, although the only audience that would listen to him is brain-washed or deceived catholics, who enjoy listening to a fellow catholic liar, deceiver and manipulator of all truth. ONE BIG LYING CATHOLIC HYPOCRITE AMONG MANY! Yes, that would include you publiar!

  27. Publion says:

    On the 22nd at 153AM ‘Dan’ – with nothing significant to put up – merely tries to make some hay on the fact that ‘Malcolm Harris’ mistakenly typed the name of Phil Donahue instead of Bill Donahue (of Catholic League).

    He then tries to make his bit do double-duty by tossing up yet again his bit about “one big lying catholic hypocrite among many!” (scream-caps omitted) … without, but of course, demonstrating any hypocritical lie that he would like readers to think that I have put up.

  28. Donald Link says:

    One item to note to lighten things up a bit, the members of SNAP's board would certainly provide interesting subject matter for any PhD candidate in psychology.  The manner of their approach is near obsession and thier tactics makes one wonder if their motivations are more subliminal.  Possibly even a mini-series on LOGO channel would be appropriate to their mission.

  29. Jim Robertson says:

    No Malcolm, I want to kill Publion but he's a sphectre.  Silence Pub? why from your mouth to God's ear. He gets paid for being here. He's not going to pass up a pay check. Pub is the real reason this site exists. He daren't shut up. Pub is the apologist for Catholic sex abuse by minimising its existence. He's a piece of shit, as are those who supprt him.

    Threating nay promising to kill such a lying phantom is no crime. It's a moral duty.

  30. Dan says:

    And let me add the thousands of priest molesters and bishop protectors that lie hidden in church archives or those very archives of evidence destroyed or refused by the cult to be exposed. Add to that those that remain free because of Statute of Limitations, creeps that dropped dead before trials, sympathizing prosecutors or judges, (possibly catholics or afraid of the cult), refusing to prosecute and those protected by the Vatican and it's many excuses and finally those hidden in monasteries or retired in catholic rest homes because they were just to frail or sick to be tried. They said they wished and wanted to live the rest of their lives in peace and be left alone, so they could pray their worthless prayers to their blessed ever-virgin idol, they claim they never worship, after destroying the lives of many innocent children. Wait until God and Jesus gets ahold of all you creeps and your excusers and enablers. Righteous Justice will finally be served and the eternal price will finally be paid, Judgment Day.   

  31. KenW says:

    Why are threats of murder allowed in these comboxes? Why do they go unreported?

  32. Jim Robertson says:

    Because you dumb sh** you can't kill someone who doesn't exist. Anonymity allows invisability. How can i kill what's invisible?

     

     

  33. Dan says:

    They're allowed because it gives the church the opportunity to point their fingers at someone else and say, "There goes the monster." Publiar can claim it's "very usefully revealing and instructive" and demonstrates the opponents "mentality", while taking the proverbial "SPOTLIGHT" off of the pedophile perverts and sick creeps of the cult. It opens the path for the cult to claim that they're the good, holy and one true church, when in reality they're nothing but disgusting "wolves in sheep's clothing". Why do you think the lying hierarchy and publiar lies and falsely accuses me? Same reason. There's the 'monster' bad guy 'Dan', not realizing that they'll be judged for their many cowardly lies and their sickening defending and excuses for the creeps in their cult. Pulling the wool over the eyes of their blind sheep and convincing them with more lies that they're not idolaters and worshippers of wickedness. Servant of the One True God, not your idols and worthless gods and goddesses. DESPICABLE LYING HYPOCRITES!!

  34. malcolm harris says:

    JR's threatening words, directed at Publion, were clearly meant to intimidate him. When that happens…. most people…. well….they generally fall silent. Thankfully it didn't work with Publion. Perhaps JR should go on a holiday, and leave his computer and other devices at home. Because that  might refresh JR….  and help him put things into their proper perspective..

  35. Dan says:

    This is my response to KenW on April 16, 2018 at 11:12am.

  36. Jim Robertson says:

    Invisible people treatened with death. Oh the horror. LOL!

    Pliar a ghost that feigns sober reflection. LMFAO! Hey Casper, you are supposed to be a friendly Ghost. Jesus said you should. Lol!

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