I was majorly abused at my high school: Junipero Serra (Now a frigging saint who whipped the native peoples he "loved" so much) High, Gardena California by my chemistry and home room teacher., a Marianist brother. I was molested over a 2 WEEK period. At least 8 to 10 times. Not once and never was I being groped; but I was being forced to  grope and masterbate him. Then him trying to make me blow him. Am I clear enough for you, Malcolm?

I was a top student in grade school and loved religion (out of fear of Hell) I was, like every catholic child, taught to OBEY any religious. And I thought: ( at the time; and to this day thanks to the lovely Malcolm) Who will believe me if I do tell?

I was a deeply religious (read frightend) catholic.

 I too was an altar boy and I lived less than a half a block from my church, Ascension. I was always called to fill in when servers failed to show. And though I served on the altar with a very drunken Irish priest many times ( He was a wonderful man with a terrible problem) No priest ever was out of line sexually with me at my church.)

Malcolm knows my abuse history ( I've written it several times here) yet he still ignores the truth, that he might rave about violins that only he hears and then invents (lies) about my abuse and me.  How so very like the church. When frustrated by the truth; blame the victim.

Ever hear of the truth, Malcolm? It's supposed to set you free. Not turn you into a liar.

How about telling the "Noble truth"?

I could have had my "hand out" for a settlement when i was 16; but didn't .Because I wanted to forget about my abuse totally. The "problem" was  it never went away I suffered consequences from his actions for ever. Up to and including right now. All victims suffer such consequences but your rich and "charitable" church refuses not only to compensate us but it also has created false flagged commitees like SNAP; VOTF; etc. to be our voice about our abuse and how catholics should "help/handle/control" us. The catholic church speaks as our, their victims, voice to the world. So the right words get said (they have to appear legit) but in an off puting way. And actions are taken which have literally never done anything to help victims but only harm and disenfranchise us.

We victims, by our coming out, have allowed you to see your church for what it really is. That's why you hate us so. Your violin-ed wet dreams of perfection have been broken and you hate the people who woke you up.

Well… I was an altar boy…. and he can save that rubbish for the bleeding hearts. Because if any priest had done, or even said, anything questionable to me… then would have used it as a pretext to escape being an altar boy.. Getting up at 6.00 am on a cold morning was not to my liking. If I had any excuse to bail out I would have used it… in a flash.

Frankly being an altar boy was not due to my love of religion, it was my parent's orders. To accuse a priest of being a 'dirty old man' would have been a perfect excuse. In fact an excuse not to go to any Church…. period..

Also the altar boys would talk to each other….it would have been contrary to human nature to keep such a revelation secret. It would have been all over town,,, very quickly.

But must ask myself about the credibility of JR.?. This is the guy who, even if you believe his story, was just groped by a sicko religious teacher on one occassion. For that he put out his hand for a million bucks in compenstion..  So is he now satisfied? Nope, not enough!…..His hatred has now obsessed him into believing that any accusation against the Catholic Church is OK….sort of what some describe as  the "Nobel Lie".

I only mention the male victims because I don't know the problems girl victims had to deal with around their rapes. I'm sure they were very similar but I can not speak for them.

Children always in part wonder what they did that these monsters thought they could do these things to them/us. Grooming the victims; befriending, showing extra affection to victims; rewarding; and or punishing victims were all parts of the perpetrators process.

Those victims who could talk openly with their parents about sexual things had a far better shot at getting adult help to report these crimes. The majority of Catholic children did not have that relationship with their/our parents. It was our word against the spiritual leaders who our parents and neighbors looked up to. A child thinks: Who will they believe me or "Father"? It was our word against theirs. And as good Catholic children we'd never seen anyone ever top the word of a priest nor ever even try to. We were hung out to dry by our own belief system. Just like you are around this issue right now.

How does a child being raped by their priest equate to a hatred of religion? At the moment it's happening to the child, believe me we were praying to God to help us. Save us!

What you hate is that we have told about our rapes later than you would have liked us to.

In my case I reported it at the time and loving the religion above myself believed the adult clerics would do the right thing and protect other children from this man. But no that didn't happen. They transferred him to Hawaii and made him head of a highschool. i only found this out recently when church files were finally released to me as part of my settlement.

Study after study have shown that male victims in particular take a long time incoming to any kind of sane terms with our rapes. Usually in our mid 30's or later. long after criminal statutes have expired. That's what the church has always banked on our own shame hiding their crimes.

And if parents are told by the child, at the time of the rape, what's happened. Church authorities and their legal team would say,  "You don't want to put your child in public talking/ testifying about their sexual relations with an adult male. It will re-traumatize the kid".

This is how this horror has "worked" in favor of the church and the perpetrators for eons. Religious hatred isn't what kept us silent. It was actually love of our "religion' ,in part, that kept us silent.

But surely it is hatred that is blinding some people to reality. As children, I and my siblings understood the basics of law and order.. Namely that we all want justice, and in criminal matters we must report the crime to the police. That is the  starting point for our system of law and order. The police take a statement from the alleged victim. They then investigate and bring charges against the alleged perp. Courts then decide if the accused is guilty or not guilty. This system applies whether it is a mugging, or a burglary, or a sexual assault,

So how on earth could widespread sexual abuse be covered up by the alleged perpetrators, or their superiors?.  If anybody tried to obstruct a criminal investigation then they themselves would have been charged with an offence.

This is a witch-hunt, swept along by hatred, and that hatred blinds people to their own knowledge of law and order.

Those are just the facts.

Inventing the church as THE victim in all of this, while you denigrate the real victims, is exactly why your real victims, your own children are angry.

Grow up and be responsible for your actions.

Cheers

We get most of our info from the media and entertainment industry, and these people are very human. Meaning they are aware of restraints on what they say and write. So perhaps we have never been informed of this particular religious practice because the media is afraid of being smeared with labels such as being anti-Jewish,ect.

As for his question of…. what would happen if priests did that?…, then I just shudder to think. The present witch-hunt would really begin to look like the Salem witch trials…..and I'm not joking.

And overnight, it went from being "Anti-Catholic Lies", to "We're soo sorry, and everything, is cleaned up now." "We have reformed."

It's still lies, and coverup. Why were a lieing Archbishop(Nienstedt), and Bishop(Finn), removed years after their crimes were discovered ? Simotaneously, and only because the Pope knew it would be a PR nightmare, a few months before his visit.

And how were they "removed" ? Both are still being paid ? And have their full titles. Neither will be defrocked. And no offical reason was ever given.

The Dallas Charter has been violated, by dozens of American bishops. Dozens of times. Since it was written, 12 years ago. And it has no provisions for enforcement.